Tuesday, June 06, 2006

21世紀的非禮勿言



近日森美小儀的電台節目鬧得熱哄哄,皆因他們攪了個"我最想非禮的女藝人"
網上選舉。當然有
報章義不容辭,站在道得的最高點來批判這群年青DJ,說他們
的節目教唆青少年犯罪,促使社會道德淪亡之類。好像他們每天準時出版的風月版,
可以跟這類傷風敗俗的事劃清界線,正如曾生一口咬定他沒有到過任何六四的集會一樣。

森美小儀的電台節目,我只聽過數次,內容雖然充滿喧嘩吵鬧,DJ們歇盡所能地攪氣氛,
甚至語不驚人死不休,但怎樣看也不是那種離經叛道,鼓吹青少年生事的題材。這樣的
一個軒然風波,連各網上大小論壇,都在口誅筆伐,不免有點小題大作。但今時今日的
香港,做任何事的背後都有一個agenda,你拿個惹人爭議的題材,我拿大篇幅的去批判你,
大家的目的都不言而喻。

整個事非的背後,其實還隱藏著一個香港密碼,就是大家仍然對性的態度和保守,還停留
在逹文西的時代。據醫學的報導,男性在每20分鐘便有性的幻想,對異性的好奇和渴望
異性的慰藉甚至親近,事實是男人的天性。大型的外國雜誌或網站,如People,Life,
US,都曾經post過類似的問題,向讀者詢問,如誰是你最渴望做愛的女星之類的調查,
簡直是見怪不怪。

在報章上,森美後來解釋說:「 其 實 成 件 事 都 係 一 個 誤 解 , 今 次 係 想

做 個 民 意 調 查 , 畀 年 輕 人 知 道 佢 平 時 親 吻 、 擁 抱 偶 像 , 都 算 係
一 種 非 禮 行 為 , 本 來 係 想 個 節 目 度 解 釋 清 楚 , 家 出 現 誤 解 ,
如 果 因 為 咁 有 人 覺 得 唔 舒 服 , 我 想 講 句 唔 好 意 思 。 」

說實的,我覺得森美的解釋和道歉實在是不清不楚。

假如留心去思想"我最想非禮"這題目,我想其含意不外乎是以男性角度去對異性作出性幻想,
而並非鼓勵聽眾去作出暴力侵犯女性。而食色性也,"性幻想"整件事本身,難道是有錯誤嗎?

森美的失策,便是以他一位這樣出色(出位)的DJ,仍然不敢公然公開公正地使用"性"這個字。
若他真能放手一試,挑戰傳統,把題目改為,"我最愛性幻想的女藝人" 或是 "我最想做愛的女藝人"
他也許更能理直氣壯地defense他們節目的idea,實在連道歉也不用多講半句。
但這樣一攪,一些開放,進取的電台或電視台節目,也會變成了頓足不前,不敢以身犯險。
於是一般普羅大眾,甚至年青人對性的態度,表面似是道貌岸然的港聞版,暗地裏也許只能
偷窺在風月版的嫖妓文章之中。

16 comments:

sidekick said...

"我最愛性幻想的女藝人"這類選舉,實在已見過不少,可能由於只是“幻想”?所以亦好像不見有人投訴。但“非禮”卻變了是“付諸行動”,於是就惹來爭議了?

Xavier said...

我覺得這類相關的選舉,大多只限特別時段的"成人"節目而已,而不是在mainstream的節目當中,可見在主流的生活中仍是禁忌。

Nana said...

//... 就是大家仍然對性的態度和保守,//

保守還是不保守,應該和 贊成 / 支持 「投票選出想非禮的 xxx 」不相干呢。
不保守不代表可無視他人的尊嚴啊。

Snowdrops said...

I completely agree with Sidekick. There are serious weaknesses behind your very male-centirc statement:

"整個事非的背後,其實還隱藏著一個香港密碼,就是大家仍然對性的態度和保守,還停留
在逹文西的時代。據醫學的報導,男性在每20分鐘便有性的幻想,對異性的好奇和渴望
異性的慰藉甚至親近,事實是男人的天性。大型的外國雜誌或網站,如People,Life,US,都曾經post過類似的問題,向讀者詢問,如誰是你最渴望做愛的女星之類的調查,簡直是見怪不怪"
"

1. You don't have to be a prude to realise that sexual assault is wrong. The whole point of sexual violence is that the sexual contact is initiated by another person against your will. This has nothing to do with whether you are sexually-active or have sexually-liberal or conservative attitudes. You don't want to have any sexual contact with guy X, so when guy X forced sexual contact on you it becomes an assault on your person, and this has nothing whatsoever to do with your general attitudes to sex itself. So trying to link sexual assault with sexual conservatism is a serious mistake, it simply adds insult to the injury sustained by victims of sexual assault, because there is an implicit suggestion that the women are just being too precious and that if they are only a bit more 'open-minded' or indeed, 'have a sense of humour' then sexual assault won't happen.

2. Just because men fantasizes about women all the time, it doesn't give them the right to initiate unwarranted sexual contact with women. The fact that the poll was specifically asking people to nominate the female star they most want to "sexually assault" is COMPLETELY different from asking you to nominate someone you have the most sexual fantasies about. Even in the context of progressive, liberal Western media, such a poll would be seen as completely indefensible and will NOT be condoned.

3. I also take issue with this perception that somehow HK is still very "prudish" when it comes to sex when compared with Western countries. Let's put aside this rather silly idea that HK people should follow whatever Western countries think and do. The point is that you will RARELY, IF EVER, see in the UK and Ireland the kind of sexually-explicit and soft-porn-filled content in mainstream publishing media readily available in HK. Yes you will have Page 3 girls in tabloid papers and you will have stories about the sexual adventures of celebrities, etc. But not to the extent of encouraging perverts and peeping Toms by having photographers AIMING for the female stars' underwear, that kind of obsessive pornographic slant to mainstream media I must say is quite unique to HK (Or perhaps HK is simply following Japanese media). And I feel all the more sorry for the people in HK that this is so.

Snowdrops said...

Sorry, please replace "unwarranted" with "unwanted" in point 2 above.

Xavier said...

Nobody is saying encouraing sexual assult is a right thing to do.

My point is how come they can create a poll like this?

All my "male centric" statement is to show that sex is a common desire but still cannot apply to mainstream media.

I think they choose to use a term "非禮" instead of "做愛" because the intention at that time probably feels like more of a sexual-fantasy or "safe" word. And, of course the whole thing backfire because people can also interpert it as violence and in your face sexual assult.

I think its supposed to be a good faith having fun program, but its been just blown out of proportion.

Snowdrops said...

To reply to Xavier:
"Nobody is saying encouraing sexual assult is a right thing to do. My point is how come they can create a poll like this?"

But wouldn't you agree that asking people to take part in a poll that explicitly ask people to name actresses they like to sexually assault IS indeed encouraging sexual assault? So how could they create a poll like this and not admit their responsibility!

"All my "male centric" statement is to show that sex is a common desire but still cannot apply to mainstream media."

This is the point where I really beg to differ. Are you telling me that mainstream media in HK doesn't have sex???????? I think you would have come across Next/Apple/East media, right?

Sex is a common desire and it has been amply applied in HK mainstream media, there are examples of it everywhere. BUT UP TO NOW there is a line being drawn between CONSENSUAL and NON-CONSENSUAL SEX. As I have said, the very definition of "非禮" is that sexual contact in initiated against a person's will. The promotion of such sexual violence is a popular radio show whose main audience are young people is simply inexcusable.

"I think they choose to use a term "非禮" instead of "做愛" because the intention at that time probably feels like more of a sexual-fantasy or "safe" word. And, of course the whole thing backfire because people can also interpert it as violence and in your face sexual assult."

"非禮" IS SEXUAL ASSAULT and IS A FORM OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE, not just "interpreted by some people" as being sexual assault. That's why it is a CRIMINAL OFFENSE. How could this be a "safe" word???????? Aren't you still adopting a very male-centric perspective towards the whole thing?

"I think its supposed to be a good faith having fun program, but its been just blown out of proportion."

I'm very disappointed in the young presenters, and I guess the majority of other people also, precisely because they are meant to be a "good faith having fun program". Nobody is saying that people shouldn't have fun, but not the type of "fun" where it requires a victim of sexual violence. Frankly, part of the shock was precisely that they are so likeable in the first place and it's so sad that even apparently right-thinking, university-educated presenters display such ignorance when it comes to sexual violence.

I don't agree either that the whole thing has been blown out of proportion - their initial belligerent response deserves to be thrashed, and it's actually a relief to find that there are still people in HK prepared to stand up against an increasingly puerile HK media when it has gone to far (and please don't tell me that you think encouraging criminal behaviour isn't going too far). At least this is a much more worthwhile topic for people to debate and for society as a whole to consider than the Bus Driver affair.

Xavier said...

Snowdrops,

Obviously you feel strongly about the whole incident, and you have taken the time to comment on my blog and argue the different points I made.

Although I don't feel like arguing anymore, I do respect your comment and thanks for visiting.

-Xavier

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